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	<title>Comments for Thomas Jefferson</title>
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		<title>Comment on On immigration: by roger9192004</title>
		<link>http://thomasjefferson.worldhistoryblogs.com/2007/07/18/on-immigration/#comment-383</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out the Declaration of Independence, penned by Mr. Jefferson.  His complaints against England include:

He [King George] has endeavored to prevent the population of these states; for that purpose obstructing the laws for naturalization of foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migration hither, and raising the conditions of new appropriations of lands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out the Declaration of Independence, penned by Mr. Jefferson.  His complaints against England include:</p>
<p>He [King George] has endeavored to prevent the population of these states; for that purpose obstructing the laws for naturalization of foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migration hither, and raising the conditions of new appropriations of lands.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On getting involved in international affairs: by paten4</title>
		<link>http://thomasjefferson.worldhistoryblogs.com/2006/10/11/on-getting-involved-in-international-affairs/#comment-382</link>
		<dc:creator>paten4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 00:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on On immigration: by Eagle</title>
		<link>http://thomasjefferson.worldhistoryblogs.com/2007/07/18/on-immigration/#comment-381</link>
		<dc:creator>Eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 13:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just to clarify, the "century after the 14th amendment" didn't mean the courts rulings after wong kim ark, but rather the general policy as characterized by repatriation programs and mass deportations that did not distinguish between illegal alien parent and illegal alien child who happened to be born within the borders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just to clarify, the &#8220;century after the 14th amendment&#8221; didn&#8217;t mean the courts rulings after wong kim ark, but rather the general policy as characterized by repatriation programs and mass deportations that did not distinguish between illegal alien parent and illegal alien child who happened to be born within the borders.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On immigration: by Eagle</title>
		<link>http://thomasjefferson.worldhistoryblogs.com/2007/07/18/on-immigration/#comment-380</link>
		<dc:creator>Eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 13:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, what a twisting of a quote.  No one else sees this?? Jefferson is talking about expatriation as a right. Not immigration.  Everyone has a right to leave this country.  Take former soviet eastern bloc countries for example, if you remember the berlin wall? Expatriate - to withdraw from one's native country, to renounce ones citizenship - yes, go right ahead.  But that does not mean other countries must therefore take you in.  Should the Poles have had to accept the Germans, or the Tibetans have to take in the Chinese??

Compare what he says here with the fact that we have may have 20 million illegals in this country who have parented millions more "americans" and then think about how he would view the situation.

"…But are there no inconveniences to be thrown into the scale against the advantage expected from a multiplication of numbers by the importation of foreigners? It is for the happiness of those united in society to harmonize as much as possible in matters which they must of necessity transact together.

Civil government being the sole object of forming societies, its administration must be conducted by common consent. Every species of government has its specific principles. Ours perhaps are more peculiar than those of any other in the universe. It is a composition of the freest principles of the English constitution, with others derived from natural right and natural reason. To these nothing can be more opposed than the maxims of absolute monarchies.

Yet, from such, we are to expect the greatest number of emigrants. They will bring with them the principles of the governments they leave, imbibed in their early youth; or, if able to throw them off, it will be in exchange for an unbounded licentiousness, passing, as is usual, from one extreme to another. It would be a miracle were they to stop precisely at the point of temperate liberty. These principles, with their language, they will transmit to their children. In proportion to their numbers, they will share with us the legislation. They will infuse into it their spirit, warp and bias its direction, and render it a heterogeneous, incoherent, distracted mass. I may appeal to experience, during the present contest, for a verification of these conjectures.

But, if they be not certain in event, are they not possible, are they not probable? Is it not safer to wait with patience 27 years and three months longer, for the attainment of any degree of population desired, or expected? May not our government be more homogeneous, more peaceable, more durable?

Suppose 20 millions of republican Americans thrown all of a sudden into France, what would be the condition of that kingdom? If it would be more turbulent, less happy, less strong, we may believe that the addition of half a million of foreigners to our present numbers would produce a similar effect here. If they come of themselves, they are entitled to all the rights of citizenship: but I doubt the expediency of inviting them by extraordinary encouragements…. "

that is a pretty powerful statement by jefferson against what we are doing today.  Oh, and boy are the illegals ever given extraordinary encouragement.  We deliver the babies for free and then give them automatic citizenship (a later twisting of the 14th amendment which ignores the intent of the "and under the jurisdiction thereof" clause) then grant that family access to the welfare state through that baby.  Not that they don't have access to a lot of government benefits without the baby, federal housing, health care, and all sorts of programs that do not check legal status.  As for the 1.6 million illegals separated, that is a choice they make when they break in.  In principle, she is correct though.  We shouldn't be splitting the families up.  If we correctly interpretted the constitution, which we did for almost a century after the writing of the 14th amendment, the children of the illegals would be deported with the parents and it wouldn't be an issue at all.

jefferson would be completely dismayed, probably disgusted, by what we've done with the legacy he and our forefathers left us with.  sorry to burst your bubble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, what a twisting of a quote.  No one else sees this?? Jefferson is talking about expatriation as a right. Not immigration.  Everyone has a right to leave this country.  Take former soviet eastern bloc countries for example, if you remember the berlin wall? Expatriate - to withdraw from one&#8217;s native country, to renounce ones citizenship - yes, go right ahead.  But that does not mean other countries must therefore take you in.  Should the Poles have had to accept the Germans, or the Tibetans have to take in the Chinese??</p>
<p>Compare what he says here with the fact that we have may have 20 million illegals in this country who have parented millions more &#8220;americans&#8221; and then think about how he would view the situation.</p>
<p>&#8220;…But are there no inconveniences to be thrown into the scale against the advantage expected from a multiplication of numbers by the importation of foreigners? It is for the happiness of those united in society to harmonize as much as possible in matters which they must of necessity transact together.</p>
<p>Civil government being the sole object of forming societies, its administration must be conducted by common consent. Every species of government has its specific principles. Ours perhaps are more peculiar than those of any other in the universe. It is a composition of the freest principles of the English constitution, with others derived from natural right and natural reason. To these nothing can be more opposed than the maxims of absolute monarchies.</p>
<p>Yet, from such, we are to expect the greatest number of emigrants. They will bring with them the principles of the governments they leave, imbibed in their early youth; or, if able to throw them off, it will be in exchange for an unbounded licentiousness, passing, as is usual, from one extreme to another. It would be a miracle were they to stop precisely at the point of temperate liberty. These principles, with their language, they will transmit to their children. In proportion to their numbers, they will share with us the legislation. They will infuse into it their spirit, warp and bias its direction, and render it a heterogeneous, incoherent, distracted mass. I may appeal to experience, during the present contest, for a verification of these conjectures.</p>
<p>But, if they be not certain in event, are they not possible, are they not probable? Is it not safer to wait with patience 27 years and three months longer, for the attainment of any degree of population desired, or expected? May not our government be more homogeneous, more peaceable, more durable?</p>
<p>Suppose 20 millions of republican Americans thrown all of a sudden into France, what would be the condition of that kingdom? If it would be more turbulent, less happy, less strong, we may believe that the addition of half a million of foreigners to our present numbers would produce a similar effect here. If they come of themselves, they are entitled to all the rights of citizenship: but I doubt the expediency of inviting them by extraordinary encouragements…. &#8221;</p>
<p>that is a pretty powerful statement by jefferson against what we are doing today.  Oh, and boy are the illegals ever given extraordinary encouragement.  We deliver the babies for free and then give them automatic citizenship (a later twisting of the 14th amendment which ignores the intent of the &#8220;and under the jurisdiction thereof&#8221; clause) then grant that family access to the welfare state through that baby.  Not that they don&#8217;t have access to a lot of government benefits without the baby, federal housing, health care, and all sorts of programs that do not check legal status.  As for the 1.6 million illegals separated, that is a choice they make when they break in.  In principle, she is correct though.  We shouldn&#8217;t be splitting the families up.  If we correctly interpretted the constitution, which we did for almost a century after the writing of the 14th amendment, the children of the illegals would be deported with the parents and it wouldn&#8217;t be an issue at all.</p>
<p>jefferson would be completely dismayed, probably disgusted, by what we&#8217;ve done with the legacy he and our forefathers left us with.  sorry to burst your bubble.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On immigration: by Julia</title>
		<link>http://thomasjefferson.worldhistoryblogs.com/2007/07/18/on-immigration/#comment-379</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that Jefferson would support immigration to an extent. As he once stated "... if they come of themselves, they are entitled to the rights of citizenship..". However,in other research, i have learned that Jefferson felt that excessive immigration would be a problem for the nation. Making it virtually impossible for him to support today's immigration, illegal or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that Jefferson would support immigration to an extent. As he once stated &#8220;&#8230; if they come of themselves, they are entitled to the rights of citizenship..&#8221;. However,in other research, i have learned that Jefferson felt that excessive immigration would be a problem for the nation. Making it virtually impossible for him to support today&#8217;s immigration, illegal or not.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On immigration: by Stephan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly Jefferson would probably be a wealthy land owning republican. Who stalls progress because he's afraid of losing his supremacy.</description>
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		<title>Comment on On getting involved in international affairs: by razrabotatprod</title>
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		<dc:creator>razrabotatprod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 05:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 09:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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